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Emmea, I can't really understand your english.... What do you mean by "BLOCKS TO ALL SAME 2 PLAYERS TOGHETER TO OTHER PLAYERS AND NOT BETWEEN THEM LIKE ALWAYS DO"?

Does that mean, that if me and Messi (for example) will block other players, but we'll never block each other (coincidentally), then we'll both get disqualified?

And who the hell gonna rate that, if there are 16 players in final, so no space for a neutral judge?

No, pablo and superalex got qualify cause were 4 in group.

If he crash then he must be 6th with morganrev qualify cause IA play for him in the end.

What if he crashes 2 laps from the end, while being in group of 3 with 50m of advantage? You're unfair to Tombus again -> once in elimination, and now in scratch.

Only 4 ppl went to 2nd round from Group E, so one spot in 2nd round is open. The most fair thing you can do now, is let both Tombus and morgan qualify. If Tombus didn't DC during race he would be surely in round 2, as race was pretty much decided when he DCed.

Stop all... i lost this one. Tombus was not ingame?

He was ingame, but he got disconnected somewhere in middle of game, about 8/20 laps I think (when breakaway of 6 formed in front, with 5 players + AI). I guess that's not a problem, as others who were getting disconnected (Pabloo, Superalex) got qualified as well.

Just an opinion, based on other ppl's reactions after 1st round. Not sayin that all Belgians are like this ofc.

Hi guys,

I also like to say something about that AI on Pro level:

I can agree that you Italian guys like to put it on pro because of realism.

The problem is that there are always only 6-8 players in 1 group and AI is with much more, but yesterday i played a BNL scratch game with 12 persons, AI on PRO, and after 6 laps we escaped with 7 players, AI couldn't return.

So I suggest that we always play with 12-16 players in 1 game!

Because out of WC we also never play with 6 or 7 people because it's noob..

Emmea plz think about this idea;)

Indeed, this solution looks best. It must be either 12-16 players with pro or 6-8 with easy, no way to connect low amount of players with high AI lvl.

Interesting draw, thank God I'm in Group B... Six Belgians in group A, other guys gonna suffer from hard teamplay.

Oh, still, Roubaix and Amstel look lovely, but there are really lots of mountain stages that could replace well-known Sierra Nevada. Same for Madrid.

Why ladder stages again? It would be much more interesting to play stages, that aren't taken from ladder, thus less known by players.

PS: You like comparisons with RL cycling, Emmea, so I'll add - UCI doesn't make all the World Champs on Huy, Kwaremont, Jaizkibel and Poggio.

5 humans + 1 AI (runners since early game) head of race

Morganrev (me) alone +100 mt.

peloton (with 9 AI riders) +200 mt.

well this impossible with AI on Pro level.

all here are saying AI professional dont permit runners to go and u admitted this.

in my group AI wasnt even even able to stay with me catching the runners.

how u can confirm that game was with Pro level?

u'd better tell me u are joking me so i wont even care no more

Well, if you can't get into TOP5 on easy lvl, then it means you simply suck, doesn't it? You was so far behind, that it doesn't really make a difference whether it was easy or hard, you would be out of TOP5.

And you also claim, that Tombus was "driven" by AI. How the hell could two AI's keep with us in top group and even fight for top3 (AI-led Tombus was very close to top3, and has beaten me) on easy lvl? Look at what ur talkin about, it's ridiculous. You have no proof, that it wasn't Pro.

As for Nimsk's case... If you are so sure, that he is lying, disqualify him! But, wait, you won't do it, because you have no idea about who tells the truth... That's why both Nimsk and Bubba should play in semi-finals.

Exactly 2min 45sec, done in Photoshop with stopwatch in my hand... So, yes, easily possible.

Group F - http://img51.imageshack.us/img51/3449/scratchl.jpg

Emeea, check your priv.msg plz.

The Semis are actually 2 groups of 16, but perhaps Tombus could be allowed to be a reserve? Theres every possibility that at least 1 person will not show up for the Semis, in which case, Tombus would be able to take their place?

It is correct after all that nothing is written in the rules about what happens in case of a tie.

Ahh, true, I was somehow sure that we'll have 4x8. Your suggestion sounds fair as well then.

In my group, all teams play... Everyone tried to block me. And i lost :/

ATM we have 32 players in semi-finals, making it only 8 per one group. It wouldn't be a problem to add 33rd player, Tombus, to that group, as he had as many points as 3rd player in his group in 1st round!

And, it would be also fair, because regulations didn't say anything about what happens if few players have the same amount of points. Rules didn't say so, so the only fair option would be to let all the interested players play in semi-finals - in this example, Tombus that is.

then it's not fair you can be placed bad at the start, very important in scratch certainly because there are a lot of ai players you can be boxed in for a couple of rounds, where you lose all chances.

You compare pcm with the real world, but it is not

As for bad positioning - in real world Tom Boonen could say sth about it after P-R

PS: But ofc I agree with you, Messi.

And huge congratz for Gheto, with today's performance he's gonna be one favourites in final!

You teamed-up with Berre so many times. Berre even blocked me once to you don't get eliminated.

Teaming-up was also a case in group D, where two Belgians - Stinoo and Stinos (coincidentally similar names) teamed up to kick me out of tournament in 2/3 races.

Luckily there was only 6 of us and Stinos was the one eliminated after all.

But we want to make a mid-way between the single game and the series. We want a format that can gave surprise on WC, a format that if a noob make the game of life can won.

Ahh, okay, I've thought we wanna choose the best track player, not the luckiest.

Seems I was wrong.

I mean one race of five.

Why are we so minimalistic then? With one race of five, it gonna take longer to group up on GameCenter, than play. 2-3 races of five would make it much more enjoyable, and - what's most important - reliable.

Ozzy from the 2nd turn pot will be made by 1st turn results so good players will advance.

This world cup is playing using a ladder db.

Experiences from previous World Champs show, that about 40-45% of players aren't showing up at 1st round. So pretty much everyone who shows up will get through to 2nd round.

(Of course it might change this year, but since CyM3 it was always the same...)

PS: Doesn't change the fact, that even with these pots good players shouldn't have any problems with advancing to 3rd round.

2006 isn't really as far as you might suppose, because game mechanics didn't change so much. It would be nice thing to put all the previous WCh medalists in 1st pot, so we wouldn't, for example, see Adams (2nd in WCh 2009) in 7th pot.

But, well, let's suppose all the good players are in lowest pots. Coz which of good players really cares about ladder?

I'm a lil' unsure about reliability of keirin event rules. Five races in each round is clearly not enough to find out who's the best player, so the results might end up a bit unrealistic.

You should really consider changing amount of races in each round to 10 (every round) or 15 (in final).

PS: Unless you meant 5x 5 races - then it's fine.

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